"My advice to other pastors is first, investigate a church-based, Christ-centered program for moms. Second, make sure that your women’s ministry understands and addresses the needs of women and mothers. Third, have women on your worship planning teams. Our creative pastor is a woman. It’s never, “What would a man say?” or, “What would a woman say?” She brings wisdom and insight Also, figure out women’s programming that simply says to a woman, “We know you’re here; we see you. We may not understand everything about you, but we want to try to meet needs that are in your life.” Lastly, you have to ask. Sixty percent of our staff are women, many of them mothers. At our all-staff meeting, we probably have 30 women in there, and 10 of them have “pastor” with their name. So, we’re always getting that needed perspective."